- Star Watch Case Company History
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- Star Watch Case Company Serial Numbers
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- Star Watch Case Company Serial Numbers
- Star Watch Case Serial Numbers
What it do, Kiko?
Aight so yo,before we get it crackin’ today, I need to take a quick timeout to give a big up to my main man, A-Town, over there at Form Follows Function aka FFF aka your favorite blogger’s favorite blog. The kid kills it on all levels. Word up, G. BAMN. NRDGNG.
Serial numbers associated with pocket watches manufactured by the Keystone Watch Case Co. Can be located on the movement of the watch and will help to identify its date of production. 1874 After adventures in Switzerland he moved to England, where he founded a very successful watch case company, Dennison Watch Case Co. 1895 He died in Birmingham. 1922 British Industries Fair Advert (double page) for Watch Cases. The Case for Present Day Use. The Case for Presentation Watches.
So yo, we gonna get right back on our grind here. We been diggin’ some serious dirt on the US Navy version of our little lady, the Type A-11 Navigation Watch. We been checkin’ all of ’em out – the Waltham, the Elgin, and the Hamiltons. And they all dope, for their own reasons, right? But right ’bout now we gonna take a step back n’ address somethin’ I been meanin’ to hit you off with. Now don’t get it twisted, I definitely get down with all black ey’thing, ey’day, but yo, I ain’t mad at this little white girl, neither. You ask me, there ain’t none better. That’s my word. Yeah, yeah, there’re dumb amounts of rarer jumps, more expensive shits, but yo, this is my girl, Son.
Elgin Type A-11, US Army Air Corps, Pt. No. 1768, Spec No. 94-27834,
Grade 539, 15 (True 16) Jewel, Sz. 8/0, Star Watch Case Co.
Crunchy chump crabs n’ all that. Word. Right now I know you all still sittin’ there tryin’a put your eyes back in they sockets, but yo, dead that and pay attention.
The first thing you’ll notice – if you anything like a nerd like me – is the white face. Now before you dumb out n’ try to get all brolic, sitin’ specs n’ shit on me, lemme explain a couple’a things about this here. I put up a few examples for y’all so we can discuss any discrepancies we might happen across. First thing first – check the date and the spec. no. You’ll see that all the ladies up there are from ’41. And if I’m ain’t mistaken, up ’till now we been dealin’ with pieces from anywhere between ’43-’45. So right here we lookin’ at an older version. And yo, the spec we see up there is missing the “-B” at the end.. Which means, what? We definitely lookin’ at an elderly lady here. Remember this?
Star Watch Case Company History
Prolly not, but whatever. So this here spec is obviously 94-27834 which dates from ’41. Now if you actually clicked that link, Son, you’d maybe understood how deep this thing goes. Shit’s like archeology, Dun. Straight tryin’a dig up Dinosaurs bones n’ shit.
Word up, Son. Keep ya eyes open.
We obviously gots some key differences between the joints that fall under the 94-27834-B spec and the one under 94-27834 to discuss here.
1. White vs. Black dial. For me the red numerals at the ten second intervals make this dial so interesting. And aesthetically they just make the whole deal pop off. I mean, don’t get me wrong, black/white is clean n’ classic and you can’t never go wrong, but a little touch of color never hurt nerthin’.
2. Blue steel hands. Aight so yo, I ain’t even positive on which of the hands I have pictured here are the correct ones for this version. I seen both the black steel and the blue steel, and to be honest I think they’s both straight. But for me the blued hands put this whole deal on smash. I mean, as a color combo, the white/black with the red/blue accents is sick. Be like, blue n’ cream. Word up, God, I’ma rock nerds this summer.
3. Peep the crown:
I got some doubts about this one. As you can prolly tell, there could be questions about whether these two crown pictured are actually the same. Now it is totally possible that the top one is just worn down from crazy use, but it looks kinda strange to me. What I suspect is that they’s both straight. See how the case backs are different? My guess is that these two Star cases are different versions released in the same year. Possibly different order numbers. Most likely the one without the spec number on it would be the older joint. What we really wantin’ to be discussin’ is the differences between these and the ones below.
Elgin Type A-11 Star Case Company spec 94-27834-B
Close up crown view
So unless you been sippin’ too much of that promethazine, you can prolly tell that the shit’s been switched up on us. The crown on the one from ’41 resembles the crown of a pocket watch, if you ask me. Maybe it was changed to this beefier version for durability reason? Not too sure, all’s I know is that I don’t have any them older joints, so if you got some, get at me.
Somethin’ just struck me. It looks like all the USAAC Type A-11(s) are cased in Star Cases. I ain’t never come across a Keystone joint. All the cases I’ve got are made by Star. Later on we gonna get a bit into the subtle differences in the cases.
Elgin US Army Air Corp, Type A-11, Three Piece Coin Edged Star Case,
Pt. No. 1768, Spec No. 94-27834
I know, I know, I’m off track, again. So while I’m off track, lemme just take a quick second to give a shout out to this dude, the hardest dude you never met.
Unknown 82nd Airborne BAMF
82nd Airborne Ranger Should Patch
Aight so number 3 took a while.. hope y’all nerds is takin’ yer ginseng or some shit. Since it took a year’an a day to get here I’ma have to post this movement pic again.
4. Grade 539? Now I know all y’all are like – that ain’t no 539, B, that’s some other shit. But yo, believe me, that’s the same one. I think. There’s always a chance that I’m totally burnt, but yo, as far as I can tell, this is actually the same joint. Check how it says ’15 Jewel’. For some reason this says it has 15, but I’m told that this is actually a 16 Jewel, hacking joint. Aight so. What I think we’ve got here is a prototype of the 539. Now this is total speculation, and please, let a nerd know if he’s way off. I think what we have here is the older, 15 Jewel non-hacking 532 movement with an extra jewel added to make that shit hack. Could be that these movements were actually just revised 532(s), not a new production run of 539(s).? They may have had a backstock of 532(s) because they were already in use on another watch, and for the first runs of A-11s (the ones above), they just updated the movements they had in stock.
Elgin Grade 532, Size 8/0, 15 Jewel Non-hacking Movement
You know what this is, right? Another damn problem. We go nothin’ but problems ’round here recently. This here Grade 532 was only used in one watch, far as I can tell. That one watch? Boom.
Elgin USMC Center Seconds, Pt. No. ?, Grade 532, 15 Jewel Non-hacking,
Size 8/0,Two-piece Keystone Case
I be the king of the tangent, God. Here we go talkin’ about one thing and I get all sidetracked n’ shit. But yo, that’s just the way I’ma do things here. Gonzo-blog stee, ya dig? That’s for those who know.
Right now we gettin’ into some real rare territory here. I been over n’ over the whole in-a-net, and it seems like there’s like 2’a’3’a these jumps floatin’ around. For sure there’s more’n that, but thats about how many heads actually took the time to post them beauties. Peace to them dudes. But like I said before, most heads in the game is chump crabs.
So check it. We got yet another white girl, here. An’ if you been grindin’, you know that’s because the USMC was issued white joints, never black. Never that. But oh, you might be like – that A-11 up top ain’t no USMC issue – and you’d be right there, B, you would. But check it. Remember, that joint ain’t under spec 94-27834-B, its under a previous one; 94-27834. And apparently, under that spec, they didn’t call for a black dial, but a white one.. So. You probably ain’t gonna see no black faced 94-23478(s). Unless they done been re-dialed. For whatever reason, when they updated the specs, they changed the color. No idea why. Easier to read? And some’a you might be wonderin’ about the mysterious 94-23478-A.. And yo, I am too. We ain’t even gonna go there, ’cause yo, I don’t know nerthin’ about them. I ain’t never seen one. Shit’s like the boogyman or some shit. Not even sure they exist. But again, what do I know?
So there we have it, the US Army Air Corp A-11. I gots me a soft spot for this one. But up ’till now some’a the pieces done eluded me. So, for real, if you one’a them dudes out there squirrelin’ like ten’a them shits away in some dusty drawer, run your pockets, fool. Hit a nerd off. Get at me.
Water.
What it do, Kiko?
Aight so yo,before we get it crackin’ today, I need to take a quick timeout to give a big up to my main man, A-Town, over there at Form Follows Function aka FFF aka your favorite blogger’s favorite blog. The kid kills it on all levels. Word up, G. BAMN. NRDGNG.
So yo, we gonna get right back on our grind here. We been diggin’ some serious dirt on the US Navy version of our little lady, the Type A-11 Navigation Watch. We been checkin’ all of ’em out – the Waltham, the Elgin, and the Hamiltons. And they all dope, for their own reasons, right? But right ’bout now we gonna take a step back n’ address somethin’ I been meanin’ to hit you off with. Now don’t get it twisted, I definitely get down with all black ey’thing, ey’day, but yo, I ain’t mad at this little white girl, neither. You ask me, there ain’t none better. That’s my word. Yeah, yeah, there’re dumb amounts of rarer jumps, more expensive shits, but yo, this is my girl, Son.
Elgin Type A-11, US Army Air Corps, Pt. No. 1768, Spec No. 94-27834,
Grade 539, 15 (True 16) Jewel, Sz. 8/0, Star Watch Case Co.
Crunchy chump crabs n’ all that. Word. Right now I know you all still sittin’ there tryin’a put your eyes back in they sockets, but yo, dead that and pay attention.
Watch Case Serial Numbers
The first thing you’ll notice – if you anything like a nerd like me – is the white face. Now before you dumb out n’ try to get all brolic, sitin’ specs n’ shit on me, lemme explain a couple’a things about this here. I put up a few examples for y’all so we can discuss any discrepancies we might happen across. First thing first – check the date and the spec. no. You’ll see that all the ladies up there are from ’41. And if I’m ain’t mistaken, up ’till now we been dealin’ with pieces from anywhere between ’43-’45. So right here we lookin’ at an older version. And yo, the spec we see up there is missing the “-B” at the end.. Which means, what? We definitely lookin’ at an elderly lady here. Remember this?
Prolly not, but whatever. So this here spec is obviously 94-27834 which dates from ’41. Now if you actually clicked that link, Son, you’d maybe understood how deep this thing goes. Shit’s like archeology, Dun. Straight tryin’a dig up Dinosaurs bones n’ shit.
Word up, Son. Keep ya eyes open.
We obviously gots some key differences between the joints that fall under the 94-27834-B spec and the one under 94-27834 to discuss here.
1. White vs. Black dial. For me the red numerals at the ten second intervals make this dial so interesting. And aesthetically they just make the whole deal pop off. I mean, don’t get me wrong, black/white is clean n’ classic and you can’t never go wrong, but a little touch of color never hurt nerthin’.
2. Blue steel hands. Aight so yo, I ain’t even positive on which of the hands I have pictured here are the correct ones for this version. I seen both the black steel and the blue steel, and to be honest I think they’s both straight. But for me the blued hands put this whole deal on smash. I mean, as a color combo, the white/black with the red/blue accents is sick. Be like, blue n’ cream. Word up, God, I’ma rock nerds this summer.
3. Peep the crown:
I got some doubts about this one. As you can prolly tell, there could be questions about whether these two crown pictured are actually the same. Now it is totally possible that the top one is just worn down from crazy use, but it looks kinda strange to me. What I suspect is that they’s both straight. See how the case backs are different? My guess is that these two Star cases are different versions released in the same year. Possibly different order numbers. Most likely the one without the spec number on it would be the older joint. What we really wantin’ to be discussin’ is the differences between these and the ones below.
Elgin Type A-11 Star Case Company spec 94-27834-B
Close up crown view
So unless you been sippin’ too much of that promethazine, you can prolly tell that the shit’s been switched up on us. The crown on the one from ’41 resembles the crown of a pocket watch, if you ask me. Maybe it was changed to this beefier version for durability reason? Not too sure, all’s I know is that I don’t have any them older joints, so if you got some, get at me.
Somethin’ just struck me. It looks like all the USAAC Type A-11(s) are cased in Star Cases. I ain’t never come across a Keystone joint. All the cases I’ve got are made by Star. Later on we gonna get a bit into the subtle differences in the cases.
Elgin US Army Air Corp, Type A-11, Three Piece Coin Edged Star Case,
Pt. No. 1768, Spec No. 94-27834
I know, I know, I’m off track, again. So while I’m off track, lemme just take a quick second to give a shout out to this dude, the hardest dude you never met.
Unknown 82nd Airborne BAMF
82nd Airborne Ranger Should Patch
Star Watch Case Company Hamilton
Aight so number 3 took a while.. hope y’all nerds is takin’ yer ginseng or some shit. Since it took a year’an a day to get here I’ma have to post this movement pic again.
4. Grade 539? Now I know all y’all are like – that ain’t no 539, B, that’s some other shit. But yo, believe me, that’s the same one. I think. There’s always a chance that I’m totally burnt, but yo, as far as I can tell, this is actually the same joint. Check how it says ’15 Jewel’. For some reason this says it has 15, but I’m told that this is actually a 16 Jewel, hacking joint. Aight so. What I think we’ve got here is a prototype of the 539. Now this is total speculation, and please, let a nerd know if he’s way off. I think what we have here is the older, 15 Jewel non-hacking 532 movement with an extra jewel added to make that shit hack. Could be that these movements were actually just revised 532(s), not a new production run of 539(s).? They may have had a backstock of 532(s) because they were already in use on another watch, and for the first runs of A-11s (the ones above), they just updated the movements they had in stock.
Elgin Grade 532, Size 8/0, 15 Jewel Non-hacking Movement
You know what this is, right? Another damn problem. We go nothin’ but problems ’round here recently. This here Grade 532 was only used in one watch, far as I can tell. That one watch? Boom.
Elgin USMC Center Seconds, Pt. No. ?, Grade 532, 15 Jewel Non-hacking,
Size 8/0,Two-piece Keystone Case
I be the king of the tangent, God. Here we go talkin’ about one thing and I get all sidetracked n’ shit. But yo, that’s just the way I’ma do things here. Gonzo-blog stee, ya dig? That’s for those who know.
Star Watch Case Company Serial Numbers
Right now we gettin’ into some real rare territory here. I been over n’ over the whole in-a-net, and it seems like there’s like 2’a’3’a these jumps floatin’ around. For sure there’s more’n that, but thats about how many heads actually took the time to post them beauties. Peace to them dudes. But like I said before, most heads in the game is chump crabs.
Philadelphia Watch Case Serial Numbers
So check it. We got yet another white girl, here. An’ if you been grindin’, you know that’s because the USMC was issued white joints, never black. Never that. But oh, you might be like – that A-11 up top ain’t no USMC issue – and you’d be right there, B, you would. But check it. Remember, that joint ain’t under spec 94-27834-B, its under a previous one; 94-27834. And apparently, under that spec, they didn’t call for a black dial, but a white one.. So. You probably ain’t gonna see no black faced 94-23478(s). Unless they done been re-dialed. For whatever reason, when they updated the specs, they changed the color. No idea why. Easier to read? And some’a you might be wonderin’ about the mysterious 94-23478-A.. And yo, I am too. We ain’t even gonna go there, ’cause yo, I don’t know nerthin’ about them. I ain’t never seen one. Shit’s like the boogyman or some shit. Not even sure they exist. But again, what do I know?
Star Watch Case Company Serial Numbers
So there we have it, the US Army Air Corp A-11. I gots me a soft spot for this one. But up ’till now some’a the pieces done eluded me. So, for real, if you one’a them dudes out there squirrelin’ like ten’a them shits away in some dusty drawer, run your pockets, fool. Hit a nerd off. Get at me.
Star Watch Case Serial Numbers
Water.